Legislature(2011 - 2012)CAPITOL 106

02/15/2011 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 71 LEGISLATIVE SESSION LIMIT/PROCEDURES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SB 33 DISPOSITION OF SERVICE MEMBERS' REMAINS TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 92 LAO VETERANS LICENSE PLATES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
               HB  92-LAO VETERANS LICENSE PLATES                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:23:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that the  last order of business  was HOUSE                                                               
BILL  NO. 92,  "An Act  relating to  special request  Lao veteran                                                               
registration plates; and providing for an effective date."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:23:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN, as prime sponsor,  introduced HB 92.  He                                                               
said the bill would honor Hmong  veterans who fought with and for                                                               
the United  States during the Vietnam  War.  During that  war, he                                                               
said, the  CIA organized  a Hmong army  in Laos,  which performed                                                               
important  combat   support  missions  for  the   U.S.  military,                                                               
including  the rescue  of U.S.  Air Force  pilots that  were shot                                                               
down and  the disruption of  North Vietnamese supply  lines along                                                               
the Ho Chi  Minh Trail.  As  a result, he said,  the Hmong people                                                               
faced  persecution  and genocide  after  the  U.S. withdrew  from                                                               
Southeast Asia.   Many  Hmong left  Asia and  moved to  the U.S.,                                                               
where they were granted asylum  under the Indochina Migration and                                                               
Refugee  Assistance Act  of 1975.   Representative  Petersen said                                                               
there is a  growing Hmong population in Alaska, and  HB 92 is one                                                               
small  way  for expressing  appreciation  for  their service  and                                                               
assistance during the Vietnam War.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN handed the gavel to Vice Chair Keller.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:25:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  noted that  the  language  on page  1,                                                               
lines 6-7,  relates that the  bill would commemorate  the license                                                               
plate  owner's service  in  combat in  support  of U.S.  military                                                               
operations in the Kingdom of  Laos, whereas the sponsor statement                                                               
indicates that  the license plate recipients  would recognize and                                                               
honor Lao veterans  who fought in support of the  U.S.  He stated                                                               
his belief that the language of  the bill could be interpreted to                                                               
mean that Americans who fought would be included.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:27:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN explained that the  intent of the bill is                                                               
to honor veterans of Laotian  decent who have since immigrated to                                                               
America.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  said he thought that  was the sponsor's                                                               
intent, but said the language of  the bill does not seem to limit                                                               
the issue  of the license  plates to  those former Laotians.   He                                                               
recommended  checking  with  the   bill  drafter  to  narrow  the                                                               
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:29:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG reiterated  that  the current  language                                                               
may  allow non-Laotians  who fought  in Laos  in support  of U.S.                                                               
military operations  to receive  that license.   He  suggested an                                                               
amendment may be necessary to clarify the sponsor's intent.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN  said although  it was not  his intention                                                               
to  allow military  veterans  who  fought in  Laos  who were  not                                                               
originally from Laos  to qualify for the  proposed license plate,                                                               
he surmised they could order the  license plate if they wanted to                                                               
honor their service in Laos.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER  remarked   that  certification  would  be                                                               
different for someone  originally from Laos than it  would be for                                                               
an American who fought there.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:32:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  offered his  understanding that  the words                                                               
"owner's  service" on  page 1,  line 7,  would mean  that someone                                                               
leasing a car  would not be eligible.  He  then asked whether the                                                               
sponsor would like  to allow descendants to  qualify, because, if                                                               
so, language to that effect would need to be added.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN said  he is  glad Representative  Seaton                                                               
pointed that  out, because he said  he would not want  to exclude                                                               
someone wanting to honor a relative who had served.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:34:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN  questioned what sort of  documentation a                                                               
person  would have  to bring  to the  Division of  Motor Vehicles                                                               
(DMV).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DAVID BREMMER, Staff, Representative  Pete Petersen, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  on  behalf  of  Representative  Petersen,  sponsor,                                                               
responded that several criteria have  been set out by the federal                                                               
government under the Hmong Veterans'  Naturalization Act of 2000,                                                               
which exempted Laotians who came to  the U.S. from having to take                                                               
the English  language test and  citizen test.  He  indicated that                                                               
allowable documentation  [for the  former Laotian who  fought for                                                               
the U.S. and is trying to  obtain the proposed license plate] may                                                               
include:  military orders from  the U.S. government; an affidavit                                                               
signed by  a military officer;  two affidavits from  soldiers who                                                               
served with the  Laotian; photographs of the  Laotian in training                                                               
or with certain Laotian generals.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHANSEN  said by the  next bill hearing  he would                                                               
like clarification  regarding exactly who would  qualify under HB
92, because he does not want  these license plates to be given to                                                               
just anyone  or for people  to be  sporting a plate  and bragging                                                               
about something  in which  they were  not involved,  because that                                                               
would be disrespectful.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:39:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  directed  attention to  a sentence  on                                                               
page 1, [beginning on line 10], which read as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          To be issued a registration plate under this                                                                          
    subsection,   the    owner   must    present   evidence                                                                     
      satisfactory to the department that the owner served                                                                      
     in combat as required by this subsection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:40:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR  KELLER commended  the bill  sponsor for  bringing the                                                               
bill  forward and  encouraged him  to get  further clarification.                                                               
He said the Hmong people were  left with enemies at home when the                                                               
U.S. pulled out of the war.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:40:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  related his experience in  the military                                                               
to  illustrate  that  "in  combat"  is  a  technical  term.    He                                                               
explained that  someone may  have been  involved in  conflict but                                                               
not  have shot  a  gun,  thus, he  recommended  that the  sponsor                                                               
clarify whether that person would be included.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
VICE CHAIR KELLER handed the gavel back to Chair Lynn.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:43:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  said he has heard  good things about those  from Laos                                                               
who moved to  the U.S. and have assimilated in  this country.  He                                                               
talked  about   other  indigenous   tribes,  such  as   Miao  and                                                               
Montagnards, who  were in the area  in Vietnam, and he  asked the                                                               
bill sponsor if he would consider them in this bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:46:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PETERSEN  noted  that the  term  Montagnards  was                                                               
coined by  the French  to mean "mountain  people."   He indicated                                                               
that the  Hmong is a  larger group  that may incorporate  some of                                                               
the others.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked that the bill  sponsor check to see if there are                                                               
any peoples calling themselves Montagnards  who may be interested                                                               
in this or a similar license plate.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER, in  response  to  the chair,  recommended                                                               
that the bill be held for another hearing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:49:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WHITNEY  BREWSTER, Director,  Division of  Motor Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department of  Administration, said  the DMV  does not  oppose HB
92, but  emphasized the  importance to  the DMV  of the  topic of                                                               
evidence  that would  be  brought  forth to  the  division.   She                                                               
stated  her  understanding  that  under the  bill,  as  currently                                                               
written,  anyone  who  served  in  Laos  during  that  war  would                                                               
qualify, not just  those who are originally from  Laos.  Further,                                                               
she said  she thinks  the bill  would need to  be amended  if the                                                               
intent is to include descendants.   In response to Representative                                                               
Seaton's point  that those  who leased a  car would  not qualify,                                                               
she suggested that the word  "applicant's" could replace the word                                                               
"owner's"                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN recommended the committee  be careful when identifying                                                               
ethnic or  racial groups in correlation  with designating license                                                               
plates.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:51:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER,  in response to Representative  Gruenberg, said she                                                               
believes  the DMV  has the  regulatory  powers to  carry out  the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:52:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETERSEN asked Ms.  Brewster what documentation is                                                               
required for other specialized license plates.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BREWSTER  answered that, for  example, to obtain a  Gold Star                                                               
Family  plate, a  person must  bring any  document that  has been                                                               
issued by  the military or  an obituary.   She said  the division                                                               
could  use those  criteria "as  evidence of  eligibility for  the                                                               
plate."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:54:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN,  after ascertaining  that there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[HB 92 was held over.]                                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
01 CS for SB 33 STA Version D.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
02 CS_for_SB_33(STA)_Sponsor_Statement.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
03 CS_for_SB_33(STA)_sectional_analysis.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
04 SB0033-1-2-012811-MVA-N.PDF HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
05 SB_33_Letter_of_Support_Vietnam_Vets.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
06 SB_33_Letter_of_Support_Alaska_Veterans_Foundation[1].pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
07 SB_33_Fact_Sheet[1].pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
08 SB_33_supplemental_info[1] comport state laws.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
09 SB_33_supplemental_info_2[1].pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
10 SB_33_DoDI_1300[1].pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
11 SB33 DD Form 93.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
SB 33
1 SSHB71v.B.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
2 HB 71 Sponsor Statment.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
3 HB71 - .90-day Session Evaluation Report.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
4 HB71 90-day Session Survey Fepresentatives.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
5 HB71 Ballot Measure 1 pro con Statments in Voter Pamphlet.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
6 HB71 Legislative Research Report 11.144 - Number of Interim Committees.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
7 HB71 Chart-Session Days by State.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
8 HB71 Chart-Legislation Introduced and Passed 1979-2010.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
9 HB71 Chart-Number of Candidates 2000-2010.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
10 HB71 Chart-History Length of Sessions.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
11 HB71 History Length of Sessions.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
12 HB71 Alaska Constitution - Section 2.8 - Regular Sessions.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
13 HB71 .Election Results 2006.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
14 HB71 Fiscal Note Legislature.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 71
01 hb92.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
01 hb92.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
02 HB92 Sponsor Statement Hmong.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
03 HB92 Sectional Analysis Hmong.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
04 HB92 Lao Veterans of America.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
05 HB92 Why Are the Hmong in America.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
06 HB92 Laos Secret War.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
07 HB92 Hmong Lions Support.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
08 HB92 Wisconsin Lao Veteran Plate.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92
09 HB092-DOA-DMV-02-11-11.pdf HSTA 2/15/2011 8:00:00 AM
HB 92